Friday, December 16, 2016

Pots and Kettles


  • Former clients of Robert Graham, now represented by a one, Mr. Gerald Gordon, have filed an involuntary bankruptcy petition against Graham's practice. [RJ]

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  1. Pots and kettles? Really? Get bent.

    Also, blog is dead.

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    1. No sense of humor? It's Friday morning! Lighten up!

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    2. Ain't nothin' wrong with a bit bump and grind...missionary style...with a co-ed from BYU....

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  2. The victims of Bernie Madoff and his ill fated Hedge Fund got their money back or a substantial part of it. They went after anyone who made money who invested with Madoff. In the Graham case it is a little unclear whether the victims that were ripped off or never paid will get their money. The perpetrator is Rob Graham. He lived beyond his means and squandered their money. This is more like an "American Greed" story where the victims seldom see a dime but attend the sentencing of the perpetrator. The State or Feds can charge him separately for each offense that he committed and stack felonies upon felonies. He could be sentenced to an incredible amount of time. But this won't happen any time soon. It is going to take a while for the State and Federal to piece this together and build a case. The process could take two years or more.

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  3. Wolfman Jack thinks Rob Graham and his wife suck......death threats against them suck....but they still suck...stole from people....Wolfman Jack not happy...

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  4. Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah and Festive Festivus and Super Saturnalis to everyone! I know many people take the entire Xmas Week so make it a good one. Love your family because you never know when the Feds and State Bar are looking into your firm. Be generous with each other; spend on presents like you have access to Rob Graham's Trust Account circa 2014.

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  5. 12:02, oh, oh. Is Stan Hunterton and his Freaks and Geeks coming after you for a nickel that was not reconciled in the trust account?

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    1. Bar counsel are idiots. I can't believe I have to write a check every year to pay for these people.

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    2. Maybe you shouldn't be in charge of a trust account if you can't do basic accounting. Stop whining about the bar going after people for a nickel. Dimes turn into dollars. Just ask Rob Graham.

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    3. 12:56, you are going to compare a nickel discrepancy to what Rob Graham did, you are bar counsel asshole.

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    4. I am simply asking you to learn how to use quickbooks. You want to be responsible for someone else's money, then be responsible.

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    5. 1:48, I am asking you to buy a clue.

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    6. Here's a nickel. Where's your hat what is your hurry? Yes, being off by nickel is the same as stealing millions like Graham did. Go maintain that 80's haircut, bar counsel.

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    7. Can you give an example where someone was disciplined for being off a nickel or making a simple accounting error? I here people complain about the state bar, but I have not seen someone get disciplined for accounting errors, unless I am just missing that Nevada lawyer.

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    8. It is a metaphor for my friend. Wait, if you are practicing, and your account goes negative, you will hear from the bar.

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    9. Crickets on examples.

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    10. @4:56-- I can cite you to an example, although its a Private Reprimand and obviously am not going to out my colleague. Monies come in for 2 clients, say $100 for Client 1 and $1000 for Client 2. Attorney reverses the amounts collected for the 2 clients and releases from IOLTA Client 1's monies ($100) to Client 2 and Client 2's monies ($1000) to Client 1. Of course when the mistake is realized, Client 1 is not giving back the $900 windfall, while Client 2 is furious as to where is his money and goes to the Bar. Attorney makes it right out of his/her pocket. Private Reprimand on Attorney's record and audit of Trust Account after hours of having to deal with SBN.

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    11. 10:16 is bar counsel. Audits and discipline over the honest mistakes with the IOLTA account. Yes, those are the attorneys the bar should crucify.

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    12. I agree- I would think 10:16 is Assistant Bar Counsel but lets be honest, no Bar Counsel is still thinking law or work at 10:16 pm on a Friday night.

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  6. Doesn't our State Bar have a fund to reimburse victims?

    The Bar wastes so much goddamn money congratulating itself and the few busybodies who think it's so important to attend each and every lame State Bar circle jerk. Cancel all these waste-of-time "events" and reimburse the victims. It would be a far better use of the money that the majority of us flush down the toilet each year. Think about it; do all the State Bar asslickers really need yet another free vacation? Plaque? Banquet?

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    1. This ^^^^

      Eff the State Bar

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    2. Fuck the board of governors, suck worse than bar counsel. Bunch of morons.

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    3. We elect said asslickers. The problem of course is that it's the same people, or type of people, running year after year. I probably haven't bothered returning a ballot in a decade. Maybe I would if there were a "burn it down" slate on the ballot. Not holding my breath. It's like a student council election.

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    4. Here's an interesting read for you: an ABA survey of Client Security Funds (or equivalent) throughout the US during 2011-2013. http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/aba_2014_lfcp_survey.authcheckdam.pdf
      Some of the highlights of our beloved state: Of the $500 or so that lawyers pay, $25 goes to the Client Security Fund. Each year, that makes about $200k that goes into the fund. Payments from the fund have been around 273k / year, with a $50k cap per claimant. In 2013 alone, the CSF approved $517k worth of awards.

      Looks like Rob Graham wasn't the only one running in the red. My guess is that the CSF is nearly tapped out, and Graham's clients are going to get screwed. Again.

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    5. Ryan Works ain't no ass kisser. He mean serious ass kicking business just like the rest of our useless bogs. Make sure you hire these people are your attorneys. Let's give them a loud round of applause for the third retirement party they threw for Connie Akridge with our dues.

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    6. Ryan Works couldn't reach anyone's ass to kick it anyway.

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  7. I think 10:00 hit the nail on the head. If memory serves, in the Madoff situation, a handful of investors did quite well and the government was able to assign them co-conspirator status, seize the funds and distribute them later. In Graham, there is no such dynamic. The clients are individuals, many of whom may be elderly and ill, who have now been reduced to abject poverty and unrelenting misery, for whatever remains of their lives, and now unable to afford critically needed medical care, etc. They will be forced to rely on lame ass GoFundMe accounts, with perhaps some limited help from the State Bar fund that reimburses victims. In the end, most of them will receive either nothing or just pennies on the dollar. Another possible source for some of them may be the LDS church. Graham is LDS, has significant connections in that community, I believe he advertised heavily in LDS publications and websites, and apparently received a lot of referrals within that community, etc. So, a certain percentage of the victims are probably LDS, and the church has traditionally been quite generous in assisting active church members who encounter life-changing, very serious events.
    This certainly qualifies. It is really impressive how generous the LDS church often is in such situations

    I would like to take this opportunity to express my displeasure with the lengthy thread on yesterday's blog which consisted of a couple posters who made no mention of the victims, but bemoaned the dreadful effect all this must be having on Graham's immediate family--totally ignoring the fact that it can be presumed the family benefitted to some meaningful extent from the pilfered millions by enjoying a greatly enhanced life style. But the posters(again, while making no mention of the victims) waxed sadly and dramatically about how dreadful this all must be on Graham's wonderfully pious family, how we all hope they bounce back, etc. Trust me, they will bounce back a million times better than the victims will. For many victims, their quality of life is greatly diminished, and in many cases utterly destroyed. I believe those posters need to reflect on their priority system.

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    1. Amen. Hallelujah. Sadly, I think their priority system is centered around their "affinity" for the Graham family and closing their circle. There is no reason to punish members of his family for his actions. However perhaps they should not be first on the lips of your prayers on Sunday.

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    2. Abject poverty? Critically needed medical care? Is there actual evidence of this or are you just filling in the blanks to paint the saddest picture possible?

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    3. What exactly do you think a Special Needs Trust pays for, 4:39?

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  8. I wonder just how many bar complaints on Robert Graham were sitting on the desks at the State Bar that were just being ignored.

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  9. Who are worse ass kissers, board of governors or the members of Inns of Court? That is a tough one.

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    1. Have some respect, John Benedict belongs to Inns. He is a helluva a trial lawyer.

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    2. The answer is Inns Of Court, but it's a real close call.

      I do agree Benedict is a fine trial attorney, but that does not alter the fact that it is a very legitimate question to inquire as to which of the two organizations consists of the most shameless apple polishers and self-promoters.

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    3. John Benedict is a good lawyer. His ball and chain, Brian Dzim, I will not even bother to spell his last name is an idiot.

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  10. Why is Ger Gordon being referred to as Mr. Gerry Gordon, seems rather deferential. This outfit run by him?

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  11. I want to give a round of support for the way bar counsel handled Marisa Boshko Border, nice to see her practicing, when she killed somebody.

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  12. Now that there is an involuntary BK filed - just watch the numbers of claims that get filed. Everyone stand in line - it's going to be a matter of whose matter is a higher priority than others. It's going to take months and maybe a year or more to ferret out what is otherwise his creative accounting. And we don't even know what the IRS is going to say when that comes to the surface - cuz it's going to!

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    1. A year is probably optimistic. The fallout in terms of cases filed by the Trustee will continue for quite some time I would imagine.

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  13. With Ribs or Elder Graham, your claim gets higher priority if you are a Mormon.

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    1. Ribs, McRib. Anyone kind of Rib you want to call him.

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    2. We should set the asset seeking hunting dogs out on Ribs Graham. Who has a good set of hunting dogs?

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    3. T. James Truman does. They were featured on the local and national news a few years ago.

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    4. I am glad to see that the Graham children will be able to serve on their expensive church mission that Graham's clients bought and paid for.

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    5. Who is Robs, or Ribs' Graham bishop at his church?

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    6. I highly doubt Graham's son's mission will be paid for with Rob's personal funds. He's been out for just a few months. I expect that his ward's missionary fund will continue to pay for his mission.

      And why do you want to know the name of Rob's bishop?

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    7. The LDS Church seems to be planning on doing the right thing. Returning the money! http://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/indicted-las-vegas-lawyer-used-firm-s-funds-church-donations

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  14. Mr. Gerry Gordon knows his way around the bk code. His firm did not pay their bills. Did bar counsel recommend him for the invol bk case?

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    1. Is Ger Gordon with Gentile or Dickinson Wright?

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    2. Neither - Garman Turner Gordon. He does have a connection to an attorney on the BoG because they were at Gordon & Silver together so it could be how he got involved.

      I'd like to know whether the BK representation is pro bono.

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    3. That is NOT how he got involved. The Macknin case is the one that brought this to everyone's attention. Macknin is being prosecuted by Sid Kistler. While Sid is with Hutchison & Steffen now, Sid spent years at Gordon & Silver. Sid knows for a BK of this size the caliber of BK Counsel that will be required and enlisted Gerry Gordon. That is why Macknin is listed as the first creditor filing the Involuntary Petition.

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    4. The article says,"Gordon said he was so concerned about the damage Graham allegedly caused his clients that he is not charging them for his work on the case."

      All these conspiracy theories above seem to be ignorant of how an involuntary bankruptcy case actually works. In another article on Friday that people presumably also did not read closely, Beesley set a hearing for this Wednesday regarding the appointment of the trustee. The United States Trustee--not the State Bar, not the judge, not the Stonecutters--picks a panel trustee to oversee the case. This panel trustee and the counsel they choose will perform most of the work in this case. Gordon's involuntary got this process rolling.





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    5. Please don't screw things up with facts. These trolls who think everyone is evil, except the people who can't reconcile a trust account will get mad.

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    6. And Beesley worked for Gordon when Gordon and Silver had a Reno office...Nevada be small still...

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  15. Thank you, Obama, for allowing Russia and Comey decide the election. That is your legacy. If I were electorate, I wouldn't fucking vote Trump, and I am a Republican.

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    1. First, the content of the emails. The content has not been disputed. The mainstream news outlets are advocating that it is better that lies and deception are used to win an election rather than a fair hearing of factually relevant information. Clinton stole nomination from Berney, but no one seems to care. Why?

      Second, where are the facts? CIA says they "have reason to believe." Really? The FBI says, we got nothing. Go with FBI on this one.

      Trump won because he was the better candidate. The endless media campaign against him failed. Trump defeated the entire media elite, hollywood, DNC terrorists, etc., and the notorious H.R. Clinton. He will go down in history as one of the greats.

      I laugh at all the clowns making fun of him. They just don't get his genius. So, they come up with asinine conspiracy theories.

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    2. Screw everything that 8:57 brings up. Irrelevant. Also, Russia is irrelevant, because Putin and the Happy Russians cast not one ballot in this election. The important issues are this: the Republicans nominated Donald Trump. This should have been a walk-off home run the Democrats. Donald Freaking Trump. Run a competent campaign, and it's over. So, ask yourself. Just how shitty of a candidate did the Democrats nominate that she couldn't effectively eviscerate Donald Trump? That she couldn't persuade people that her position was the better one? She's a lawyer. She was SecState. You're telling me she was unable to formulate a persuasive reason for people to vote for her? Then screw her. She doesn't deserve to sit in the chair. For better or for worse (and I, personally, believe its for the worse), Trump convinced people to vote for him om states that have historically gone Democrat.

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    3. She did run a competent campaign, and more people voted for her than Trump. That she lost the election because Trump won more electoral votes is another issue - Clinton didn't win enough votes in the states that mattered. Russia and the Russians are not irrelevant - just because they didn't cast a single vote in the US election doesn't mean they weren't actively working to affect the election - something a real American would find treasonous to support or ignore, but a typical Faux News'er can't help but repeat. This obviously was never going to be a typical election - look at the primaries of both parties - Trump never should have come close to winning, but he did, and Sanders never had a fair shot.

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    4. "typical Faux News'er" This right there. This shit. Someone disagrees with you, so you instantly start painting with a wide brush, assuming the person sitting across from you is ignorant, racists, sexist, homophobic, etc. You want to know why people voted for Trump? Look in the mirror. Signed, someone who didn't vote for Trump in either the GOP presidential preference poll or the General Election.

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    5. This shit what? This shit what, fucknut? If the dress fits, wear it, Nancy.

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  16. What does Kurt Faux have to do with the election or the news?

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  17. What is the bankruptcy case number for the Grahams and what jurisdiction was it filed in? Can't find it in NV or CO.

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