Wednesday, August 10, 2016

No More Honeys In The Courtroom

There was an article in the New York Times yesterday about the ABA adopting a model rule of professional conduct that "forbids comments or actions that single out someone on the basis of race, religion, sex, disability and other factors." You can read more about ABA Resolution 109 from the ABA and can view the language that was adopted here. Apparently, some states have already adopted similar language. Should Nevada adopt this version of the rule? Is this a problem in Nevada? Is it more of a generational problem? Will defining discrimination and harassment as "professional misconduct" change anything?

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  1. More shit no Nevada state judge would have the fortitude to enforce. Add that the rejects at the Orifice of Bar Counsel are entirely useless in enforcing professional responsibility.

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    1. Maybe you can help by volunteering for a discipline committee. Be part of the solution!

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  2. Just in general, as a male, I find it annoying as crap when a stranger uses a term of affection with me, regardless of their gender or intent. You don't know me like that, stop calling me honey, sweetie or dear.

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    1. Take it easy, son.

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    2. Calm down, friend.

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    3. Relax, buddy.

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    4. Settle down Beavis, you Boyd '13 troll.

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    5. Seems like it's more of a habit for them and they call everyone that. I don't think it conveys any particular affection towards you (sorry).

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    6. Easy does it, kiddo.

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    7. Peace, brother.

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    8. I actually really like it when someone calls me honey or dear. I bought a washing machine from a woman on craigslist and as she handed me something she said "here you go, my dear." What can I say, I like the attention, even if it is not genuine.

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    9. Can I get you some coffee, sweetie?

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    10. Listen, pal.

      Or: Terrance Clauretie: "Hey toots, can I get a cup of coffee?"

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    11. Slow down there, chief.

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    12. Make a new plan, Stan.

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  3. Speaking of honeys, anyone hear that Boots at Eglet Prince is leaving? I heard she's jumping ship to a solo office.

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    1. Looks like a hardcore dominatrix. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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    2. Those big tities should not be solo, honey.

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    3. Who is boots? That sexy redhead over there?

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    4. Disgusting.....

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    5. The chauvinistic comments are disgusting, but what I find worse, is the way female attorneys pimp their looks. That is worse. Women have it bad enough in this male dominated profession, but females who do this are worse. I dress professionally for court, and I still get looked over like a piece of meat.

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    6. Some women, not all.

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    7. I am a female attorney, who is young and attractive, and there are male attorneys who I will not be around alone. I have been asked out on dates, discriminated against in the work place, and by opposing counsel. I promise you, you will be reported, and what goes around comes around.

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    8. Concur, I am a married attorney, and I have men my age, and 20 years plus older than me that hit on me. You are douches, and I have no interest in your stank ass.

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    9. I am a male attorney, who is young and attractive. That is all.

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    10. Hopefully one with a less conservative dress code.

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    11. FWIW ladies the first thing I think of when you walk into the courtroom is how hot you are and how much I wish you'd sleep with me. I don't think about how good a lawyer you are until you start talking unless I happen to have read whatever you're arguing. I submit that this is right and proper so long as I don't get the two mixed up.

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    12. I would like to second 12:37. I am another male attorney, who is young and attractive.

      That being said, I have witnessed many male attorneys hit on other female attorneys and even office staff. It's really lame and puts a bad rap on other male attorneys such as myself who treat everyone the same, regardless of sex.

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    13. Lewis and Roca

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    14. Lewis and Roca. Ah, yes, that is where boy genius, Laxalt is from. Home of the "train wreck."

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    15. To the first three respondents, ya'll know these posts are public, right?

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    16. @4:47, I'm guessing you're Kutner? Who currently has a motion pending in A-15-720137-C trying to get a subpoena issued to Google so he can find out the identity of Legal Eagle of WWL fame and the identities of commenters? Seriously, give it up, bro.

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    17. Kutner's just not going to let that WWL drama drop, will he? I thought they already filed suit a while ago and it got dismissed. How is he able to file another suit seeking essentially the same thing? I do love that the owner of WWL is asking for $475k to sell the site to him. Why $475k?

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    18. I am an older married male Shark Pimp who is 100 pounds overweight and whose body has a very expired warranty. It's bad enough when younger men act like pigs, but when broken down old guys like me who actually look like pigs act this way they're just embarrassing themselves. Grow up guys. And how about you not act like a pig because you're MARRIED???? Idiots. And for those of you who think you're somehow smarter than women simply because you have a Y chromosome, my daughter is an internationally recognized scientist whose brain probably works better asleep than yours does awake.

      Ladies, can't speak to your office situations, but if any of these clowns lay hands on you in the courthouse, go to the bailiff and demand that they arrest said clown.

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  4. Dude, enough with your Eglet fetish.

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  5. On the flip side, I am an older married male. I stay away from young attractive female attorneys because I have a well founded fear of homewreckers, gold-diggers, and bunny boilers. Keep your crazy where it belongs.

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    1. Believe me, female attorneys are not gold diggers. We make our own money.

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    2. One dollar at a time.....

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    3. Meaning what female attorneys are strippers? Or, female attorneys work hard for the money?

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    4. The idea that there all female attorneys out there are not gold diggers or home wreckers is laughable. I'm not saying ALL, or even 50%, but there is a significant group who would love nothing more than to fuck up a marriage. Now on the flip side, us male attorneys have a much higher douche quotient. That's why I work with family, no temptation there.

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  6. The comment says that a judge's finding that a peremptory strike was done for discriminatory reasons doesn't necessarily establish discrimination under this rule. So what IS supposed to establish discrimination, if a formal judicial ruling isn't enough?

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    1. Re the comment: I, too, would like to advance dicverse employees.

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    2. Must be to protect prosecutors who never get discipined.

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  7. We always hear about the best trial attorneys on the Plaintiff's side (Eglet, etc.) So, who are the trial stars of the Defense Bar? Who would you call if you had a bet the company civil case? Who can persuade even the toughest jury? Inquiring minds want to know...

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    1. George Ranalli could but he won't risk his firm's many, many panel designations on one pour sap with a bet the company case. Besides, Clark County juries are notoriously pro-plaintiff especially versus big corporations and businesses in general.

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  8. Not Bailey Kennedy, and not Thorndal.

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  9. Jim Pisanelli is great in the courtroom, very smooth. You'd figure the insurance defense bar would have some great trial attorneys since they are in court so often...

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  10. Lee Roberts is very good.

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  11. "Discrimination" is when someone says or does something the ABA does not like. "I hate cops" is a-okay protected speech; whereas "I hate black thugs" is not. Draw your own conclusions as to what the upshot of all this is.

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  12. Wait a second, is this some kind of backhand to Trump? So, if an attorney says, "Rosie O'Donnell is an ugly fat fucking lesbian nut job," would that expose him (or her, or undecided) to discipline??? Isn't truth always a defense?? The State Bar literally cannot keep up with all the cases involving attorneys who have stolen from their clients, but now they are supposed to dedicate resources to nailing Truth Tellers?

    Please, for those of you who value liberty, vote Trump or Johnson, not Clinton. What's left of the American Dream is about to perish.

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    1. Stop being a dick, nobody likes you.

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    2. You clearly have no understanding of the American Dream.

      Don't worry, even if Hillary gets elected you will still be able to hate minorities, poor people, homosexuals and people who practice a different religion. (I'm presuming that satisfies your concerns about your "liberty".)

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    3. I don't get it. Are you saying Rosie is not "ugly fat fucking lesbian nut job" or are you saying it is "hateful" to point this out? Now, you could argue she is not ugly in your personal opinion, but it would not have any more weight than Trump's opinion. You cannot possibly dispute she is fat and a lesbian. And, again, you could argue whether she is a fucking nut job, though a few minutes on YouTube should settle that issue.

      So, what are we talking about? Oh, right, the "liberty" to hold and express opinions. Particularly unpopular or insensitive ones. That is a profoundly important right. The first thing communists do when they take over is remove that right. This is because they understand the importance of controlling thoughts and ideas.

      Switching to Clinton versus Trump, the question is whether it is hateful to want American to be great again and for the immigration laws passed by Congress and signed by the President to be enforced. The ugly truth is that documented immigrants generally contribute to America's greatness, but undocumented ones do not. The undocumented illegal aliens generally fill our welfare rolls and prisons, destroy neighborhoods and really don't do much to make America Great. In fact, they drag it down to the level of where they came from. Compare parts of LA to parts of crime ridden slums in Mexico. Same people causing the same problems in a different place.

      Clinton has promised amnesty to 12 million crooks, welfare parasites and rapists; some of whom, I assume, are decent people. So, if she wins, America loses. More taxes, more parasites, more foreign wars and "regime change" etc.

      Can reasonable minds disagree? Sure. Maybe flooding Nevada with third world immigrants is super duper. Maybe not. Smearing those who would say it's a bad idea does not advance the debate.

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    4. The fact that you think "the question is whether it is hateful to want America to be great again" tells me you have been drinking the Trump Campaign Kool-Aid. The fact that you would compare parts of LA to parts of crime-ridden slums in Mexico tells me that you haven't spent time in either.

      And for the record: I laugh at you because I think you are unintelligent -- not because I find you funny.

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    5. Teach me. What fabulous aspects of Mexico do you want in your neighborhood, school, government, justice system, church, etc. For that matter, what awesomeness from Syria, Iraq, Senegal, etc., do you want right next door. Today.

      Problem with arguing with smug liberals is that they don't argue. They toss in "racist" "sexist" or "unintelligent" and, bam, the debate is done. Then you bask in you righteous superiority. Oh, look honey, I just smashed a redneck online. Pour some bubbly.

      I love life, liberty and all the greatness that America has to offer. Sure, taxes are going up, crime is going up and Clinton has promised to take my guns while she starts endless foreign conflicts, but I cling to the American Dream. Laugh. Hate. Whatever.



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    6. Hey Joe Bob,

      I know you are all worked up about the possibility of losing your guns, but do a little research before you besmirch Senegal. Senegal is the picture of stability (at least as the term is defined on the continent of Africa). Senegal has a strong education system and a stable democracy (with multiple political parties). As such, Senegal should not be included in the same sentence as Syria and Iraq . . . unless of course the sentences is: "Oh thank God I'm in Senegal -- not Syria or Iraq."

      And by the way, if as I suspect you meant to write Somalia (you seem like the type who would parrot Donald Trump), you may want to check a map (a real map -- not the one at the mall that says "You are here"). Senegal and Somalia are hardly neighbors -- Senegal is on the west coast of Africa. Somalia is on the east Africa. The countries are separated by some 4,000 miles.

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    7. F*ck it. I'm going to Senegal!!

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    8. Senegal does sound quite nice. I think Joe Bob should visit.

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    9. This here is Joe Bob. You are correct that Somalia would be a better example, but Senegal has been shipping a large number of migrants to America (google it). I met a Senegali recently, and he was kind of a dick, so that is why it came to mind. I had pleasure of chatting with a Somali UBER driver recently and he was quite nice, and he was definitely super duper happy to be in America working TWO jobs and making a living. When I asked about Trump, he smiled and said "that man is right!" So there. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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  13. "Problem with arguing with smug liberals is that they don't argue. They toss in "racist" "sexist" or "unintelligent" and, bam, the debate is done. Then you bask in you righteous superiority. Oh, look honey, I just smashed a redneck online. Pour some bubbly."

    I could not agree more.

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