Tuesday, August 2, 2016

Job Tips: Executive Backpacks And Such

Inspired by the recent post mentioning Dennis Prince's backpack, one of our readers writes in with the following question:  What recommendations do blog readers have for a briefcase or other solution for a female attorney? Are there different briefcases for men and women? Should she just stick with a purse? Does a briefcase replace the purse in court? Should she have different briefcases/bags for different shoes? Would you recommend the executive backpack or some other solution?

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  1. Laptop shoulder bag. Not nearly as silly looking as a backpack, still versatile and obviously useful, works for men and women, can be simple or executive. I am giving myself a thumbs up for this one. Good job, me.

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  2. There are a number of suitable carrying cases for an attorney to use in court without resorting to a backpack. What's next, a duffle bag? It's the same thing as showing up in court wearing a sport coat; it's disrespectful and implies you don't take the proceedings seriously.

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    1. How was the RNC, Pimp?

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    2. Have to disagree with you on this one, Pimp. There are some sport coats that are far more expensive and look better than an off the rack suit. A custom made sport coat and slacks can look far more professional than a cheap suit.

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    3. Sport Coat is fine for most appearances. Trial you should wear a suit.

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    4. I'm not impressed when a non-attorney tells attorneys what they should wear. Your expertise is in employment, not attire. If you wear a suit in Municipal Court Traffic, you are way overdressed.

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    5. Lots of proceedings do not need to be taken seriously because they are being conducted in front of Judges in jeans or worse.

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    6. August 2, 2016 at 10:26 AM - Aside from the Battle of the Rules committee, which rocked, it was horrible. A week and a half of stadium food and one late night breakfast that gave me food poisoning. That town is a dump.

      August 2, 2016 at 11:08 AM - Thank you for being polite in your disagreement. May I suggest that a better description is that a custom made sport coat can look more elegant, but not more professional. By the way I find semi-custom (i.e., made to measure, more than adequate. True custom or bespoke clothing is a bit pricy; most fully custom suits start around 8-10K and go up from there. My business suits are M2M and cost me less than a Brooks Brothers suit OTR.

      August 2, 2016 at 12:10 PM - Are you also not impressed when a non-attorney tells you what's wrong with your car or the plumbing in your house? Trust me, wardrobe counseling is and has been a part of my work as a recruiter as it is for many recruiters working in a variety of industries, not just legal. One look at an average day at the RJC and one can see that downtown Las Vegas desperately needs a Brooks Brothers or a Jos. A. Bank store. And when I next see Judge Kerns, I'll be sure and let him know what you think of his court. And if you want to crawl out from under the rock of anonymity I'd be glad to host a no holds public debate on professional wardrobe; we'll bill it as Loser V. The Shark Pimp. And tuck in your shirt.

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    7. Downtown Las Vegas has a Brooks Bros. outlet store. Picked up a couple of decent suits there, and got them tailored at the main BB store at the Forum Shops.

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    8. Judge Kerns does not handle Municipal Court traffic, he is Municipal Court #5. Resorting to name calling is beneath you. I do respect most of your opinions but please don't start calling out people on an anonymous blog for not using their names. That is way too similar to a different less informative contributor to this blog. Take the high road my friend.

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  3. Today was the Pintar/Parker Punkout in Department X for a stay. Anyone have any insight on how the hearing went?

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    1. Hour argument. One statement ruling, essentially you should have read the pleading. Motion under NRCP 60 denied motion for stay denied

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    2. What sucks (among other things) is her client was a real slime bag. It's terrible she is taking such a fall for this guy.

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    3. So I guess now they ask the Supreme Court for a stay?

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    4. Protip: if you suck as an attorney but still want to make money, file baseless motions and hope one (or more) slip through the cracks.

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    5. Listening to Judge Walsh give lectures about reading pleadings is like listening to Donald Trump give lectures about the importance of civility. If I understand the briefing correctly, if someone does not oppose my motion for attorney fees, I can sneak in a supplement with my notice of non-opposition and ask for the first time ever all of the attorney's worldly possessions and their first born as a sanction and the esteemed Judge Walsh will grant me that relief without any findings of fact or conclusions of law? And Judge Walsh does not see the procedural problems with this?

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    6. Parker is not the first attorney to try to get fees from opposing counsel. He won't be the last. Welcome to Las Vegas. Other attorneys are the last people I worry about. Marissa Border remains undisciplined. These are reasons why I am not concerned about other attorneys.

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    7. The Pintar/Parker case sounds like dumb and dumber.

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    8. Just do what I do. Anytime you file a complaint or answer, also file a "Notice of Standing Opposition to Any Requests for Fees or Sanctions." Boom - covered.

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    9. That sounds like the kind of rogue document that should be stricken from the docket if the clerk and JEA are doing their jobs.

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    10. 1:04-- that document and a cup of coffee will get you a cup of coffee. John Muije used to do this trick where he served him Complaint and Summons with a "Notice of Intent to Take Default and Default Judgment" and would then claim that he never had to provide you notice again because you were served with a Notice. Shady people do shady things.

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    11. IMHO, horrible decision...and would think the decision will be overturned and/or remanded with instructions for further briefing and findings by the Judge.

      IMHO, read the dang pleading....

      IMHO, they now have a conflict with their Client!

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    12. No way this stands on appeal. No way.

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  4. I have seen some purses/handbag that are really designed as backpacks internally, with inside sleeves for laptops and pockets for pens and tablets and such. externally they look like any other purse/handbag. You women get to have all the options!

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    1. And we get to make 75% of the dollar you make too.

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    2. Read the facts and studies, not the commentary of a employment hiring site CEO.

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    3. If female attorneys make 75% of a male schoolteachers' salary, I need to encourage my partners to start headhunting for females fresh out of law school. But that would be comparing apples to bullfrogs, wouldn't it?

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  5. There are also purses that are big enough to put in small files or really anything smaller than a binder. That is typically what I use, although it definitely increases the wear and tear on a purse, and can get to be quite heavy if you are using it often.

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  6. For Christmas, my wife got me a Ted Baker leather bag that I use now and love it. Much better than my older stiffer hard leather
    http://www.tedbaker.com/us/Mens/Accessories/Bags/JAGALA-Leather-satchel-Chocolate/p/124679-22-CHOCOLATE

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    1. That's quite a string of words: wife,bag,love,better, older, stiffer, hard.....and in that order. CONGRATS

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    2. That is a very nice looking bag.

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  7. To answer the question from a humble man's point of view:

    Women who are single should dress to attract a husband. Slightly sexy but not slutty. Suggest what lies underneath, don't let it all hang out. Married women or women who are married to their careers should wear loose chick suits or burka-like summer dresses, so no one bothers to even think what lies underneath.

    An expensive purse and shoes are absolutely necessary. I may be an old man, but I still judge a women based on her purse and shoes. A briefcase is always appropriate, but since most women simply do not have the upper body strength to carry a loaded suitcase, the girly-stewardess rolling bag is always okay (for a woman - never for a man, unless he is recovering from back surgery and he has a female associate rolling it).

    Go easy on the make-up, but pretty much every gal I know could use a touch up before heading to the office or court. Remember, a pretty face lifts everyone's spirits. Needless to say, please (please!) take time to style your hair. Next to the purse and shoes, a woman's hair is a decisive factor in how seriously anyone will treat her. A single women should tease it a bit more. She never knows when she might cross paths with Mr. Right.

    A side note: I think a women should always wear the finest undergarments she can afford. There is strength and confidence that comes from knowing your precious assets are sheathed in the finest garms. Walmart 3-for-$3 specials are not going to get you that feeling.

    You're welcome.

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    1. 3:43, hi, JD. I will be over at Dickinson Wright to give you a bj. Leave your STD test results with the receptionist.

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    2. I'm still laughing at 3:43's beautiful trolling. So great. Those of you who think he's serious need to lighten up a bit.

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    3. Always okay to bash women, disgusting. Lighten up, nope. You are a pig. 5:08 and 5:13, nice try. One in the same.

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    4. Nope, you a pig. So there, now we are all in the sandbox together like a bunch of fucking children. You embody the truth of the statement: some women don't grow up; they just grow old. Fuck off, Miss Piggy.

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    5. 5:46, keep up your inanity, and fuck you!

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    6. Surprise, surprise, we have some animus towards female. Go take this shit elsewhere, troll.

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    1. who the hell says burka? me thinks he is LDS.

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    2. Clearly a troll. Too bad he is neither funny nor engaging. Try again, and put some of that manly muscle into it this time.

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    3. Oh, fuck off, @4:00.

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    4. What did he miss? Should women not wear make up? Should they wear shitty shoes and carry shitty handbags? Should women be forced to carry heavy bags they do not have the strength to carry? Not sure what is missing. I don't think he meant it as a joke. In this day and age it is hard to get straight advice. We should thank those who offer it.

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    5. 4:19 is 3:43. Fuck you!

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    6. Dice is in the building. Control yourself, ladies.

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    7. Dice, do you drive, because I need you to drive, and help me bust out an attorney from the pen.

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    8. Me thinks I've never wanted to be lesbian more than I did when I read 3:43's comment. What the hell.

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    9. 4:19 here. No, I'm not 3:43. No, I don't agree with the 3:43's sentiments. But the out and out bigotry gets wearying. "Oh, that's chauvinistic (or thinly-veiled satirical chauvinism). I bet he's Mormon." Fuck off.

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    10. 4:43, nice try. Fuck you, double kick stand aka 3:43.

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    11. Lipstick Lesbian. Please be a lipstick lesbian. To defy the laws of nature is one thing; to do it looking slovenly is quite another. Me thinks the final judgment is harsher if you look like so many of these hideously dressed lesbians do.

      Please remember, our clients come to us for relief, not to be smacked in the eye balls by the garishly dressed homely attorney. They expect to see a sharply dressed lawyer. It will give them comfort. We are servants. Servants of the law. Servants of our clients. Dress the part.

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    12. 4:49 is "another" mormon. can spot them a mile away. talk about bigotry against women, gay people. just in one post.

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    13. ah, most mormon men i know like the little woman to be at home. joe hardy is a mormon, and he at least tries to be respectful of women.

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    14. 4:53, I hope you were being ironic. Given the definition of "bigotry" (conveniently pasted, infra), who is the bigot? I bet you don't tease your hair and take pride in your filthy shoes that don't match your Target handbag. (Oh, wait, how did that feel?)

      big·ot·ry
      ˈbiɡətrē/
      noun
      intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

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    15. 4:57, you keep showcasing your low IQ.

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    16. 4:57 refers to lesbians as ethnic.

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    17. 4:59: I want you to know I love you. We disagree, but I know your disagreement is sincere and grounded in a deep commitment to human happiness. What could talking about a women wears in the office or court do to increase human happiness, right? A woman should be judged on who she is, not what she wears. She is not an object. She is as good as a man, whether she is wearing a smart pant suit or a Target blouse.

      I just disagree on whether it's okay to judge on appearance. I think it is fair to give greater respect to a woman who takes the time to dress and groom appropriately. In my experience, the better dressed female attorneys also generally produce a far superior product and perform better in the courtroom.

      But that's just me. Let's agree to disagree. And, yes, I am not particularly smart.

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  9. Does anybody know if Bobby Misko is single? He is fireman hot.

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    1. Misko works for Bonjovi. He is a lot better looking than her. He looks 20 years younger than you.

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    2. That's funny - his bio on her website says he is an 'Associate Partner'.

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    3. Is she sleeping with Bobby? Saw them in a social setting, and it was very chummy.

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  11. I have always felt looking neat and professional was enough but there are people who seem to care about shoes and clothes. I need shoes that can last me a full day of hearings so they aren't fancy but comfortable. I need suits that are versatile. I carry a laptop bag and a briefcase. I work hard for my clients and they know they're getting fair billing because I don't buy fancy bags - if they want a beautiful attorney they can look elsewhere. I am ugly and no amount of makeup would help. Function over form.

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  12. http://www.shortlist.com/style/accessories/the-20-best-bags-in-the-world-right-now

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  13. I used to think dressing as you like was a sign of power. If your a veteran rainmaker with all the political connects - fuck it - flip flops and a TV shirt in the office.

    And then i realized client facing activities requires us to gauge the client's pov regarding the correlation btw being well groomed/well dressed and a) professional abilities b) respect for the client. So, the rainmaker from the prior paragraph will shave before the meeting w/ outside parties and have a suit/shoes in the closet for when they need it.

    And then i realized none of this applies to me so i need to stop bitching and wear the suit and tie b/c my boss lacks the ability to see what i can see as clearly a social construction.... that ain't disrespectful is it?

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  14. As a single woman, 3:43 PM wardrobe and hair comment applies equally to men. I judge men all day long on their frumpy suits, polo shirts that are so old the collars have collapsed under, and their banged up fake leather shoes. And please, go to the barber more than 4 times a year. The sign of a well groomed man is one that always has a well defined hair line on his neck.

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    1. As a single woman, you clearly don't understand that 95% of men have no idea what you're talking about with regard to well-defined hair line on the neck.

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